In a culture that measures success by scale and influence, what would it mean to pursue a different vision of ministry? Join Andrew Root, PhD, scholar of theology, ministry, and culture, as he discusses the forces shaping the Church’s pursuit of growth and scale. Drawing from his latest book, Baal and the Gods of More, Root traces the roots of this fixation and invites us to imagine a way of being beyond the capitalist promise of more. In conversation with Joel Kiekintveld, PhD, affiliate faculty in theology and culture at The Seattle School, they explore how the Church became caught in a cycle of performance and striving, and what it might look like to break free.